slamtrak that’s a good one

The freight train ahead may have been waiting at a red signal for another train to clear such as where two sets of tracks cross one another.

amtrak+ collision= SLAMTRAK

Pay day for the passengers

who parks freight cars on a main line anyways?

that engineer is a Moron

Damn, now look who’s not paying attention. GCOR 6.28. Good thing i’m not runnin right now we’d have cars all over the place.

Excuse me 6.27

When required to move at restricted speed trains must travel at a speed which allows them to stop within half the range of vision. Amtrak is not one to travel at restricted speed often. When in yard limits all movements must be made at restricted speed, if you are on a main track. If you’re in the yard movement is governed by GCOR 6.26 (movement on other than main track which is almost word for word restricted speed. It looks like amtrak was not following the rules.

WOW!! Just look at how that rear car rose up at the impact.

dont see that everyday

WTF??? lol

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Ouch.

John, can’t they dedicate a bypass track for passenger trains?
I thought they did that to avoid ruining schedules and to be safer.
Now I know passenger trains must adhere to same rules in yards and are granted no higher speeds. Thanks.

Should both the engineer and dispatcher be blamed for not making it clear that a train was on the same track?

I would have thought they would not switch Amtrak onto a track where Amtrak would have to come to a halt behind a stopped train, especially when so close to the station.

Don’t they keep a track open just for the many passenger trains? (Too bad they don’t have a dedicated track.)
Thanks, John.

Since when does a passenger train follwo restricted speed in a yard.
Doen’t a passenger train get expedited?
Otherwise it takes much longer to get to the station.

His vision was restricted by the curve.
Was he to slow even further before entering the curve?
Had this been on a straight section, he would have been able to slow and stop, correct?
What is your summation of any later information?
Thank you.
Northwest of Denver, two trains collided head-on under U.S. 36. Fatality. Had either one been later or earlier, the would have seen each other.
This was one place they could not.

The engineer confused the signal with one from a different railroad territory that he runs on. The dispatcher does not have to tell him that there is a train in the block. The engineer must run on signal indication. The indication he had was to proceed at restricted speed, being able to stop in 1/2 the distance of vision.

They say that Amtrak’s ridership is going up. But the governmental support is all bullshit.

this probably won’t help the car shortage they have.

Quick brake hurt the passengers.

d’oh

This was not a “communication breakdown”. It was the engineer’s responsibility to follow protocol, as displayed by the signal’s indication. The dispatcher’s warning that there is another train ahead does not supercede the FRA’s mandate that the engineer will proceed into the block prepared to stop (within 1/2 the distance of sight). In this case, the engineer simply failed to operate his train at a safe speed that allowed him to stop short of the train ahead.

OPPS!!! whos fault is it: UP of amtrak, i would think both. remember, kids dont try this at home! Not!